Testimonies of some who deal with their own LGBT issues.

I share this video to support those who struggle with LGBT issues who may be seeking help to unpack causes ,reasons or goals they want to aim for, that some oppose. Freedom to choose different types of support l think should be acknowledged in a free country. Not everyone agrees with the value of these individual journeys with their struggles.

Not everyone who has these issues will journey the way of these in the video but different ways can help different people. The video below is a brief outline of their journeys. The X out Loud you tube site has more videos where these guys explain individually in more detail their journeys

Trump vs Biden Election 2020

Trump is l acknowledge coarse, bad mannered, disrespectful at times, bombastic and appears a bully sometimes . Biden on the other hand appears more polite, well mannered and statesman like.

I have christian bible based concerns about powerful undercurrents in USA political policies that effect the following:

1 Freedom of religious views and expression of same. Under Trump or Biden is their a difference in the value placed on this. Can a Christian be tolerated for having the biblical view that Jesus is the only way to be reconciled to God and that traditional biblical marriage ethics have an equal value

2 Is Trump more prolife than Biden. Trump has openly supported prolife events.

3 Biden appears more prepared to consider transexual treatments /therapy for children. This l have concerns about.

These issues concern me. However l do accept others would have rated other concerns such as health care or immigration as more important to them

I would like to suggest that being polite and well mannered may not be the dominant way to judge who is President. Although l acknowledge these virtues would be most helpful in relating better to others.

At the end of the day some would say that God decides who is the President.

The harshness of Conservative Evangelicals.

Hi

l think sometimes christians can be unfairly harsh or verbally aggressive towards one another over doctrinally or biblically informed differences .

However accepting this criticism does not mean we have to look at the bible through lenses that emphasise only the importance of respectful loving caring human relationships. That aspect is in the bible but other aspects l consider also stand out in the bible. These include the uniqueness of Jesus Christ, aspects of Gods wrath intertwined with grace and mercy and the construct of marriage.

We need to be less argumentative at times but we don’t have to loose traditional orthodox views of the bible. As traditional views are challenged can there be a pruning to find a core set of evangelical believes that come from the bible without discounting our evangelical past. Also it can be said that an old fashioned evangelical approach to biblical hermeneutics can still be attractive as some of these churches flourish and grow in numbers.

The challenge to develop a loving Christian community that strives to develop God’s standards as in the bible continues.

When is it healthy to have sex transition treatment ? Also The risks of sex transition treatment for children.

A Psychologist who used to be at our local Leeds Gender Identity Development Service ( Gids) has spoken out in the Sunday Times about concerns of not assessing children fully enough before sex transition treatment is started.

Now there are research and scientific based articles about the risks of puberty blockers. Regarding the need for sexual transition shouldn’t it be decided when the person is an adult?

From a Christian perspective l consider God created us biologically either Male or Female. There can be struggles that some of us face in identifying what sex we are. Let us walk with such people and their struggles. Let us listen and care for such struggles.

However we don’t hear much if at all in England that some people regret there sex transitions and have reversals. Also there are an increasing number of people in the United States Of America who find that sexual transition treatment did not solve there sex identity issue.

Please can it be recognised that past sexual abuse, past relationship issues with parents, past social interaction issues, issues of self esteem development can for some cause sex identity problems. Some counselling and therapies can uncover this and why shouldn’t the person if he, wants to, have the goal of learning to accept the biological sex they are born into. This does not negate the struggles a person may have and it can be a lenghty process dealing with this complicated real difficulty.

Sunday Times July 20th article below.:

Children ‘misled’ at gender clinicYoung people are being given puberty blockers without problems such as abuse or neglect being examined, claim staffAndrew Gilligan | The Sunday TimesJuly 20 2019, 6:00pm, The TimesAnna Friel and Callum Booth-Ford in ITV’s transgender series ButterflyAnna Friel and Callum Booth-Ford in ITV’s transgender series ButterflyShareMedical staff from England’s only children’s gender clinic have gone public for the first time to raise fears about the treatment of youngsters seeking a sex change.Kirsty Entwistle, who was a psychologist at the Gender Identity Development Service (Gids) in Leeds until October last year, accused some of its clinicians of misleading patients.She warned they are “making decisions that will have a major impact on children and young people’s bodies and lives . . . without a robust evidence base”.In an open letter, published online, to Polly Carmichael, who runs the Tavistock clinic, where Gids operates in London, Entwistle said “children who have had very traumatic early experiences” were being “put on the medical pathway” to transition “without having explored or addressed their early adverse experiences”. She said the service “minimised or dismissed” the fact that many of the children it saw were victims of parental abandonment, sexual abuse, domestic violence or extreme poverty.Entwistle said staff told children and their families that hormone blockers — given to many Gids patients to stop the progress of puberty — are “fully reversible”. In reality, she said, “no one knows what the impacts are on children’s brains, so how is it possible to make this claim?” Gids’ own research suggests mixed results from blockers. In practice, nearly all those given the drugs go on to take irreversible sex-change hormones once they turn 16.Describing one youngster who “arrived to sessions in a poor state of hygiene and said there wasn’t money for hygiene products”, she said: “How is it ethical to undertake a gender identity assessment with a view to a medical pathway when there are children and young people [who] do not have their most basic needs met?”If staff tried to “suggest that perhaps these early experiences might be connected to a child’s wish to transition”, Entwistle said, they “run the risk of being called transphobic”. She said there was “some unspoken rule” in the service “that means Gids clinicians do not tell families: ‘Your child is not transgender’”.Her criticisms echo those made by a number of Gids clinicians who have resigned and spoken anonymously to journalists, and by David Bell, then a governor of the NHS trust which runs Gids, in a secret report leaked to The Sunday Times in February.Bell, who interviewed a number of Gids clinicians, said some children took up a trans identity “as a solution” to “multiple problems such as historic child abuse in the family, bereavement . . . homophobia and a very significant incidence of autism spectrum disorder”.A second psychologist, Melissa Midgen, who still works at Gids, has co-authored a letter in an academic journal saying that some patients put on the medical pathway will “express distress as a result of the path and/or treatments they have taken” and that clinicians must be “free to discuss, explore, and research differential presentations of gender dysphoria”.In the letter Midgen and a former Gids clinician, Anna Hutchinson, do not criticise the service directly, but support the theory of “rapid onset gender dysphoria”. The theory is fiercely disputed by trans activists.Gids said less than half its patients were given blockers: “We do not hold a view on what the outcome will be for a child when they come in to the service. There is no pressure to provide medical intervention from the service, though there can often be from the young person or family.”Staff had opportunities to discuss complex cases, said a spokesman, and the service’s “considered, ethical and caring”approach had been endorsed by the Care Quality Commission.

The ? silenced testimonies of managing struggles with sexuality issues.

I consider that in the media we do hear of the needs for rights of the LGBTQ to be valued and recognised. This is fair enough.

However there are some who struggle with LGBTQ issues who don’t get recognised as much or even? silenced. These are those who find support to not have sexual relations with the same sex or those who find support to gradually change sexual orientations.

If a LGBTQ within a christian fellowship feels they want to manage there struggles can they have the option of exploring therapies and/ or prayer support to help them possibly gradually change sexual orientation or find support not to have gay sexual relations. Is this a valid option?

I would say it is a valid option. I know in the past there have been crude and forced sexual conversion therapies that l would not advocate. However there are increasing number of testimonies of LGBTQ people finding talking therapies and prayer support helpful in managing or gradually changing sexual orientation.

For further information please visit :

http://www.livingout.org

http://www.core-issues.org

You tube: Pure Passion Media. Web site https://purepasssion.us

The above websites have many genuine testimonies of talking therapies and prayer support that have helped people manage or gradually change there sexual orientation if that’s what they choose.

I want to broaden out the discussion of this issue to allow the traditional biblical view to get a fair hearing. To help this l consider testimonies of LGBTQ Christians who decide to struggle through in this framework need to be heard. Many have found help and do not become more depressed if prayer support is offered or talking therapies within this framework.

I don’t deny there are real difficult struggles with sexuality issues. We always need to be sensitive and caring to one another.

Marriage and the Bible

Hi, a controversial subject. I do consider the Bible says that marriage is between a man and woman and that is only where sexual relations should be.

I am far from perfect with this ideal. Many both in the Church of England and outside of church would say this is a false ideal. I admit l have failed this ideal and also been through a divorce.

There are struggles and pressures to take a person away from this ideal. As l say l have failed with this but don’t hesitate to own this ideal.

God has been merciful to me and allowed me to start again many times. l do believe God is angry with sin but is overflowing with mercy. I believe through my ups and downs God has given me now a beautiful wife. God allows us to start again through what Jesus accomplished.

Of great concern to me is that this marriage ideal is proclaimed, occasionally in churches, otherwise how will young people gain this as an ideal of what God wants. However many would say l am misguided with this ideal.

Many would have differing ideals and boundaries to marriage but l would say for what it’s worth that this is not what the Bible says. May we have room to politely disagree where necessary.